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Jan: Non-Classical Narcissisim

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Posted by Rich ( on September 15, 2003 at 18:02:20:

Hello Jan, once again:

The thread on on non-classical narcissism, didn't seem accurate to me, looking at my own experience. I don't think that " inverted nracissism ", or " compensatory narcissism " really comes to grips with this subtype.... I think that the problem, perhaps, should be rather defined as as what order the Self Confident ( Or Dave Kelly's Inventive Style ) appears as one of the 3 main styles. The classical narcissist, would most likely be Self Confident as the strongest style of the 3 main styles. Oldham in his book lists a Dramatic-Conscientious-Self Confident doctor ( pg 188 ). He would be a 2W3, or 4W3. Such a person would recognize limits, but would also want recognition and praise....

For the same reason, I think that your take on Riso's 3W2 & 3W4 is too exclusive. Riso says that the 3W4 tends more to workaholic behavior than does the the 3W2! I agree with the snobbery aspect. Naranjo says that the E4 is more of an intellectual emotional type, as opposed to the E2, which is emotional & anti-intellectual.

The whole narcissism problem seems to be plagued by bad definations, unspoken assumptions, and a need to make the whole thing, a lot less messy than it truely is. Looking at actual people, I think that we should look at where the Self Confident Style/narcissism fits into the person's personality- the strongest, fairly strong, or the weakest of the 3.... Rich Serious-Inventive-Sensitive

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