Posted by emoot(: (188.8.131.52) on February 12, 2003 at 16:05:17:
In Reply to: How do you feel about the possibility of a major war? posted by Flower Pagan (184.108.40.206) on February 11, 2003 at 16:46:02:
> I am wondering how do you feel about all that is happening in our world now with the situation with Bush/US wants to persue war with Saddam/Iraq and S. Korea wants to follow the US's examle in attacking N. Korea? I know Fours are good at expressing feelings and sometimes help other types to get more in touch with their feelings too, so please feel free to express yourself freely and please, tell us why you feel the way you do.
= I think this situation is far more complicated than the media can comprehend. I honestly believe that the media has no way of covering these events factually. They may be able to report the events when they occur but they have no real insight into the reasons why these things are happening. The things that are going on now are a combination of many things that have been festering for years. And only those who have been directly involved can say why these things have come to pass. The rest of us only have our opinions.
Has the middle east ever been a calm and peaceful place? I can't remember a time when something wasn't going on with Isreal, Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait,Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan etc. Every pot will reach a boiling point if it sits long enough on the stove. The middle eastern unrest has finally accumulated enough technology and weapons of mass destruction to want to tango with the rest of the world.
All of these things start in the same old place. With hate, racism, greed, and lust for power. These things did not start when Bush was elected..... they were occurring during the Clinton, Bush Sr., and Reagan admistrations as well. With Bush Sr. we had the first conflict with Iraq; with Clinton - the US bombed a factory in the Sudan, the WTC was attacked the first time, and the USS Cole was attacked in Yemen; and now with GW we have 9/11terrorists and Saddam.
In my view, 9/11 changed everything. We can no longer think that here in the USA that we are safe and that war only affects other lands.
Our way of life has been seriously threatened. I don't think Bin Laden (or his cronies) and Saddam are best friends but I do think that they have a common goal which hopes to remove the US and its allies from the world scene. I feel sure they have helped each other with the exchange of weapons. And there are Muslims in Iraq who follow Bin Laden. Why do you suppose Bin Ladin reared his ugly head yesterday on TV with that pep talk to the faithful in Iraq. He's stirring the pot.
"We stress the importance of suicide bombings against the enemy, these attacks have scared Americans and Israelis like never before," says, Bin Laden.
And Saddam is cut from the same cloth Hitler was cut from. He's a despot. He has no regard for human life and he has ruthlessly killed thousands of his own people.(There are many Iraqi citizens who want the US to help them get out from under Saddam's rule) He wants to kill more. He wants more power....why else would he have all those weapons if he was not planning an attack on other countries. He has consistantly lied and ignored the NATO rules. That puts the whole world in danger. The fires of war have been stoked and there is little hope that Saddam will choose the exile route.
As much as I realize that war is a horrible thing and I hate that it happens....I also realize that we cannot peacefully control those who force it upon us. If we do nothing the problem won't go away. We are left, unfortunately, with only the choice of trying to protect ourselves.
Throughout history wars have been enevitable and many times unavoidable events, because, sadly, humans are not naturally peaceful beings. There will always someone who wants to take something from someone else. Whether we like it or not, our history has been shaped by war, our freedom has been won by war and our safety has been protected and defended in wars waged by others.
One last note, on our human nature.... when you look at the number of movies that come out of Hollywood that depict gratuitous violence and earn millions in the box office, is there any doubt about humanity's appetite for violence? If we were truly peaceful beings... we would have no interest in watching, let alone paying to watch, violence even in its fictitional form. Even though I think peace is still something to be hoped for, I find it very hypocritical that many anti-war actors in Hollywood don't see this distinction when they choose to star in violent films. It seems to me that if they want change then they should start with themselves and be more responsible in the area(movies) in which they have control.
I was reading a book the other day that mentioned in the average prime time evening TV slot that violent acts were depicted 1000 times more than they are in reality. That coupled with the fact that many of the popular "reality" shows, which focus on petty human conflicts, really causes me to question the entertainment industry and their motivations.
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