Posted by emoot(: (188.8.131.52) on May 14, 2003 at 12:04:31:
In Reply to: Being E Type 4 is another Unfair obstacle to finan posted by raz62 (184.108.40.206) on May 14, 2003 at 10:02:58:
> Being E Type 4 is another Unfair obstacle to financial success:
> I would just like others to share on this.
> I have been at the same job for 3 years, and the daily degradation has grown to absolutely unbearable, whereas others in this place (who are 1. male 2. either have no children or have their spouse/hired help do all the child care 3. from a top tier school and generally from upper middle or upper class families and 4. do NOT have E type 4 personalities) keep making more and more money -- they actually let some guy who already made $150,000 a year salary and 2x a year hefty bonuses (in the 40K area) con them into signing an extra $60,000 incentive because he threatened to quit. Meanwhile here I am, a female with two small children at home, so I do make a strict work schedule every week -- if warned in advance, I can arrange to stay an hour or two late, but I can't do it with no warning -- from a blue-collar background who went to a decent but not top school (Temple U. in Phila., for journalism, a subject for which Temple IS a top school) AND I'm a type 4, even though my 3 wing and Social variant first have helped me deal with at least persevering and showing up every day and still fighting for my just desserts. I made $33,000 first year, $38,650 second, and $37,425 this year. It's not very consoling to get no support and empathy from my family (other than my spouse, he sees things my way), my family says "Oh, you're lucky to have a job!" Well I'm going to quit and go back to working at the union supermarket, at least everyone was treated equally there. The worst blow was when I moved from associate editor to editor but did not get the former editor's compensation (about $53,000 a year) because "the company is on a raise freeze." Well, it wasn't a raise, it was a move into a vacant position, plus I know several people HAVE gotten hefty raises in the past year because they are valued and I am not. I don't know why I want to keep fighting. But I have been on public assistance before and I definitely to NOT want to go back to that. Something in me keeps seeing all of this money being thrown around here, I've never worked before with people who make so much money, and I feel that if I stick around long enough I'm bound to get my little fortune someday. Meanwhile, I was just excluded from a department meeting because I am just "support staff." The former editor was treated as a professional and I am treated like sh!t.
> Hey, what does this have to do with the Enneagram? Because I am sure that if I groveled at their feet and bragged all the time about my accomplishments and wore my cookie-cutter navy and gray suits every day and God knows what else I'd have to do -- socialize with them all the tiime after work, after all, the hell with my kids! -- then I'd be moved up. Which means that my Fourness is another obstacle. I cannot be a Core 3.
= I know what you are saying.... I've worked for two newspapers and one TV station as a graphic designer and the corporate writing and art world doesn't pay much. I was very disgruntled working with mostly males and feeling the glass ceiling...
I have read that the working world in general is not exactly laid out for INFP/4w5 types, being that they only make up somewhere between 3 and 1 % of the entire population. From what I understand it is kind of a ESTJ/ESFJ working world out there.... and fours/INFPs are the polar opposite of that mentality...so fitting in is kind of difficult to say the least.
here's a post I wrote awhile back.... there's more to it which I will find and post later but for now I am out of time.
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