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Re: self-typing

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Posted by Dave on December 21, 1998 at 18:02:10:

In Reply to: Thank you and... posted by Polly on December 21, 1998 at 16:37:13:

> When I take these quizzes to help determine type, or otherwise read descriptions of the various types and try to identify with one, am I supposed to be considering what I actually *do* or what I *want to do*? As I said I'm resistant to some of the types (e.g., 5) because I don't like its attributes.
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Focus on the why rather than the "do". Your type is more a reflection of where and how you focus your attention, and your motivation at a deep core level. One of the signs you have identified your type on the enneagram is that you go into denial, depression, anger, reject it out of hand, or some other negative response. Not liking the attributes of a type may mean you've come across your type, or an active type within you (ie. your primary type, wing, connecting point,or parental point).

> A random thought...Strangely, I seem to identify with the negative characteristics of these types rather than seeing myself in the positives...definitely some (realistic) self-criticism.
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This is good because it's easier to identify with negative attributes of our type.

> > About the integrating/disintigrating, this is something I've had trouble explaining in the past as well. I don't believe that one direction along the arrow is strictly integrating (moving in security) and the other direction is strictly disintigrating (moving in stress.) I tend to just see strong connections among the types along the arrows. So 7 is strongly connected to 1 and 5. I'm a 4, which means that I'm "supposed" to go to 1 when secure and 2 under stress. But when I'm under stress, I also find myself becoming more picky, perfectionistic, and self-critical; the negative qualities of my 1 side. So I feel that the arrows really go both ways.
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I look at connecting points as that, connections and predilections. Most commonly we go against the arrows under secure situations or to find relief from our type, & usually access the high side of that type, but one can also often exhibit the low side. The same is true for stress points.

Integration/disintegration is a developmental schema for the enneatypes, and is partially true for development.

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Re: self-typing Polly 07:22:54 12/23/98 (7)
- Re: self-typing Dave 19:55:24 12/23/98 (6)
  - Okay, so... Polly 08:44:51 12/24/98 (5)
    - Re: Okay, so... Dave 14:05:29 12/24/98 (4)
      - Re: Okay, so... Polly 14:58:24 12/24/98 (3)
        
        Re: Okay, so... Dave 18:05:38 12/24/98 (2)
        
        Ideas... Polly 10:21:59 12/27/98 (1)
        
        Re: Ideas... DAVE 13:11:27 12/27/98 (0)

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> > When I take these quizzes to help determine type, or otherwise read descriptions of the various types and try to identify with one, am I supposed to be considering what I actually *do* or what I *want to do*? As I said I'm resistant to some of the types (e.g., 5) because I don't like its attributes. > ------------------------------------------------- > Focus on the why rather than the "do". Your type is more a reflection of where and how you focus your attention, and your motivation at a deep core level. One of the signs you have identified your type on the enneagram is that you go into denial, depression, anger, reject it out of hand, or some other negative response. Not liking the attributes of a type may mean you've come across your type, or an active type within you (ie. your primary type, wing, connecting point,or parental point). > > A random thought...Strangely, I seem to identify with the negative characteristics of these types rather than seeing myself in the positives...definitely some (realistic) self-criticism. > ----------------------------------------- > This is good because it's easier to identify with negative attributes of our type. > > > > About the integrating/disintigrating, this is something I've had trouble explaining in the past as well. I don't believe that one direction along the arrow is strictly integrating (moving in security) and the other direction is strictly disintigrating (moving in stress.) I tend to just see strong connections among the types along the arrows. So 7 is strongly connected to 1 and 5. I'm a 4, which means that I'm "supposed" to go to 1 when secure and 2 under stress. But when I'm under stress, I also find myself becoming more picky, perfectionistic, and self-critical; the negative qualities of my 1 side. So I feel that the arrows really go both ways. > ------------------------------------ > I look at connecting points as that, connections and predilections. Most commonly we go against the arrows under secure situations or to find relief from our type, & usually access the high side of that type, but one can also often exhibit the low side. The same is true for stress points. > Integration/disintegration is a developmental schema for the enneatypes, and is partially true for development.

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